Let me start by saying that there is no other individual blog entry I’ve written so far that I’ve been as excited about as this one you are about to read. I feel like a kid at Christmas—I could hardly sleep the other night because I couldn’t wait to start writing this. And what is the subject that has me all giddy? The angry and crazy reactions my fellow Offender Sung got on his last two blogs from a “few” readers (read here first and then here to get caught up if you’re in the dark. I’ll also explain shortly why I put the word “few” in quotes—I promise you’ll love it!).
Now, let me add that one of the things I love most about this blog are the always-interesting comments that you, our YOMYOMF readers, leave. For the most part, your comments are witty, funny, insightful, supportive and/or down right cool. Now occasionally, we’ll get comments that are rude, angry and/or just plain crazy. I can’t speak for my fellow Offenders, but I love the negative comments (and quite frankly, surprised that we don’t get more). They’re often hilariously entertaining and usually say more about the person commenting than on the blog itself.
For example, check out this blog I wrote about the closing of my neighborhood Round Table Pizza and the comment left by Nicholas Stix. Of all the blogs on our site that a white supremacist could get upset about, he chooses one about pizza? Really? That’s where you’re going to blow your wad? But this doesn’t compare to some of the “mistakes” other negative commenters have made. So let me use Sung’s recent blogs as instructional tools to provide some helpful advice for those of you who plan on writing negative comments:
HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOR
Before you actually write your comment blasting us for some offense or another, really review the blog carefully to check to make you’re not misreading anything—are you missing the satire, are you bringing your own baggage and reading something into the blog that isn’t intended, that sort of thing.
Let’s take Sung’s “Why I’m Afraid of American Women” blog as an example. In the blog, Sung talks about his childhood crush on Shanelle, his best friend’s older sister, and how this made Sung’s immigrant mother warn him against “American” women. The first person to take offense to this blog was a reader named Julia. Here’s an excerpt from her first post:
Now it seems to me that Sung’s post is clearly written in a tongue-in-cheek style and, if anything, he’s poking gentle fun at his immigrant mother and some of the strange ideas immigrant moms—hell, all moms–have when it comes to the welfare of their children. I don’t think it’s necessarily a leap for Julia to assume Sung’s friends are black based on their names, but I think it is a huge leap to assume that “American” in this case equals “African American” in a derogatory sense and that the motivating force behind his mother’s actions is racism AND Sung is in fact agreeing with her opinion.
Not only is there nothing in the text that supports the assertion of anti-black racism (and let’s not forget that Sung’s mother is herself technically an “American”), but there would also be a huge irony at work if this were the case because Sung’s step-dad is black. The man his mother has been married to for decades, the man who raised him since he was a baby, is African American. Now I know that doesn’t necessarily mean his mom or Sung himself doesn’t hate black people, but it does make things less black and white, so to speak. I know Sung’s been ostracized by whites, blacks and Asians because his dad is black and his mom is Korean so I don’t think the issue is as simple as it may appear. And Julia is right in that Asians are not exempt from racism. Some other Asians have stopped speaking to Sung once they learned his father was black, for example.
But as I’ve said, oftentimes these comments say more about the person commenting so if you still feel upset or angry or offended after carefully reviewing the blog in question, by all means, post your feelings. I say this in all sincerity because this blog would be boring if everyone agreed with everything we said. We are the Offenders after all and one of our job functions is to provoke and our readers should respond in kind when called for.
DON’T BE REPETITIVE; MAKE YOUR POINT EFFICIENTLY
But if you do decide to comment, know that your point will hit harder if you make it as efficiently as you can and not belabor what you’re trying to say. Again, let’s once again turn to that blog of Sung’s. Julia continues to go on about why she’s offended and then says she is not going to read this blog anymore:
But at 11:47 AM, Julia comes on again to respond to readers defending Sung:
And then at 7:18 PM, she’s back for another long defensive rant where she reiterates her previous points, even stating again that she will no longer read Sung’s blog:
Look, you don’t have to respond to everyone who responds to you, you don’t have to repeat the same points and certainly you shouldn’t keep saying you’re not going to read but keep coming back and leaving long comments. Again, these are things that will weaken your argument. Make your point and trust that it’s strong enough to stand on its own. But if you feel you need to add to it, make sure you have some new tricks in your arsenal.
Now, Julia is also hinting that there are other people who are offended by Sung’s post but so far, she’s riding solo. Until 7:36 PM and the arrival of Karen:
Even though they don’t know each other, Karen is clearly there to have Julia’s back. Karen writes “Kudos to Julia” for speaking the truth and Julia once again responds at 8:52 PM with this shout out to Karen:
Now we’re cooking, right? Two righteous women on the warpath. But hold on a minute…
DON’T BE SCHIZOPHRENIC
Those of you who have left comments on our blog know that you have to include your email address (though it’s not published) before you can post. The reality is it doesn’t even have to be a real email address—you can make one up and the post will still go through. But here’s something many of you computer savvy folks also probably know…you can fake your email address but you can’t fake your IP address. Let me once again turn to Sung’s recent blogs to illustrate what I mean by this.
Julia and Karen’s comments sounded suspiciously similar—the long-windedness, the particular use of grammar, etc… Their email addresses were different, but when we checked their IP addresses, guess what? Both Julia and Karen had the same IP address!
Does this mean that Julia/Karen is the same person pretending to be two different people to make it appear that there is more public outrage than there might appear to be? Nah, no one would do that, right? That’d be really crazy! I’m sure it’s just a coincidence.
HIDE YOUR PAPER TRAIL
Now about 30 minutes after Julia’s last comment, HisBella makes her first appearance at 9:32 PM. She is a self-proclaimed Italian American woman and she, like Julia and Karen, is outraged at Sung:
Now HisBella does also sound similar to Julia and Karen. However, to be fair, she has a different IP address although she is from the same city which I’m sure is again strictly a coincidence. But here’s what HisBella does that you shouldn’t do in her position. She not only keeps posting on this blog but she also follows Sung over to his next blog and continues the rant there. Her attacks also grow more…colorful. Take this for example:
OK, so racial jokes won’t be tolerated, but then you turn right around and do that very thing you just condemned? Again, these sort of actions raise red flags and might make us do something like perform a simple google search of your email address and, lo and behold, strike gold!
It turns out YOMYOMF isn’t the only site that’s faced the wrath of HisBella. It seems that under the name of Michelle D, our HisBella had also written offensive and racist comments on The Black Conscious Thought blog (“No Bias and No Bull from a Black Woman” is that blog’s credo) including statements like this which forced the blogger to block her IP address:
So the very person who has sided with one two African American woman (Julia/Karen) to protest Sung’s racism against blacks got kicked off a blog written by a black woman for being racist against blacks herself? Damn, you can’t make this shit up! BTW, you can read all about this incident over at Black Conscious Thought.
Now with all this said, I want to mention a comment left by a woman named H.L. who also took offense to Sung’s blog and wrote this:
Like with the other women above, I still think H.L. is reading things into Sung’s blog that aren’t there, but here’s the thing—I really appreciate her comment and the way she made it. This is clearly something she has thought deeply about and even if I disagree, these are the sort of perspectives I hope people will bring to our blog.
So feel free to disagree. And if you can’t make your arguments in the thoughtful way someone like H.L. did, at least make sure your crazy is entertaining. Let’s have some fun and for that I must thank Julia/Karen/HisBella because they did bring an energy and life.
I know this entry is already long, but I want to make one final point. When we started our mailbag section and asked our readers to submit questions, this was one of the first ones that came in (you can see the whole post here):
“you guys should stick to being sneaky little bastards writing about kung fu, hello kitty and complain about white people in your rice paddies like all the other gook sites.”?–Rick
Something like this could be upsetting, but my fellow Offender Justin made the point that it stopped bothering him when he remembered that he wasn’t here alone. He had us—the other Offenders—and this was our online family and because we are here to watch each other’s backs, comments like that don’t have any real strength. I would go even further and say that I think (and I feel confident I can speak for all my fellow Offenders) that our online family extends to all our loyal readers who are as much a part of YOMYOMF as any of us. It’s awesome to see our readers, on Sung’s blogs or others, take up the defense when a particularly offensive offense should arise.
The name of our blog is youoffendmeyouoffendmyfamily, after all. And that’s not a coincidence.






I’m going to give myself a cookie. I knew those ladies were barking up the same crazy tree. *tears*
Now I’m going to sign up for the army and get going on that Intelligence Operative position. Or I’ll just rule the world with my amazing Schizo-detector.
Hahaha, crazy chicks from crazy town!!! They are the best!!!
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The Offenders R-O-C-K!!
Just out of curiosity, what’s an IP address? Does every computer/device have its own unique one, like a fingerprint? (Not that I’m trying to, er, hide my identity anyplace …)
Dear Phillip,
How offense?
Would you really like to know why Karen and I have the same IP Address?
It’s called family; yes Karen is related to me. Want specifics on how we’re related? She is my sister, we happen to be at our parents house for Spring Break in New York , thus why the IP addresses are the same.
We are not lunatics nor are we the same person. The e-mail address are clear indications of that, both of them are real ones that work. E-mail me to find out. She happen to post under a pseudo name, thus why I didn’t realize who was commenting till we had a conversation after the fact.
I was not offense to Sung Kang and I did not curse, or act a fool but simply give an opinion. Why I have a post retaliating against me is crazy.
Then you have the nerve to invite me onto your blog. I’m highly disappointed and I don’t appreciate it Phillip. You really did surprise me, I thought you respected me and my opinion but clearly I was the monkey in your show who will bring you reviews but guess what this “monkey” is not playing along.
You must have really gone out of your way to go and find the IP address; it’s not something you just see. If you did it would have been caught earlier.
Nonetheless Julia and Karen are two different people, believe it or not but I have no reason to lie. We are sisters who happen to comment from the same computer. I didn’t realize I had to verify my e-mail, family members and who comments from what IP address.
As for the HisBella, I don’t know her so please don’t connect me and my sister to her. She is from New York, Is it so hard to believe we come from the same state?
Again, I’m highly disappointed. I received an e-mail from someone with the email southernip or something like that. Why couldn’t you address this outside of this blog? Why make a public announcement over a misunderstanding?
I would appreciate it if you don’t indeed post our e-mails, I can’t afford to have people attacking me or my sister personally, we both use those e-mails for school and work. Neither one of us can afford to change them.
Thank You,
Julia
I felt some of that crazy ladies’ posts came from the same person! I knew it! Guys, you read my thoughts and confirm them!
Philip, how do you think, will Julia/Karen read your post? Will she answer it? It’d be interesting:) Hisbella is not with us any longer, her IP is blocked as far as I understand…
Ha, while I was writing my comment Julia had appeared!
Y’all don’t fool me one bit…
Julia = Karen = HisBella = SUNG!!
;D
Peace.
Thanks, Julia, no one’s going to publish your email. That info doesn’t show up when you post comments nor is it our policy to use them. Oh, thanks for clarifying that Karen is your sister. In the future, you should include that in the comments in a situation like this to avoid confusion. You guys made it sound like you were strangers to each other in the comments. But thanks for reading again, we thought you were gone.
@Kate, HisBella is not blocked–that was the other site that had issues with her so she’s welcome to come back here.
@DDH, that’s one way to describe the IP address. Basically, it tells people where you are but other than that, we can’t use it to access any info about you (well, who knows what the govt can do). It’s like the postmark on a letter–it just tells where the message came from–and as in this case, even if two email addresses are different, it can tell us if it was sent from the same place.
Dear Philip,
Thank you for stating that our e-mails will not be posted. This is no offense to you but neither one of us appreciate being publically humiliated over a misunderstanding. If you would have e-mailed me or her, it would cleared up and there would have been no need to create this blog. Instead you decided to post anyways without knowing all of the facts.
As I stated before my sister used a pseudo name, therefore I didn’t realize her till we talked after the fact. Neither one of us felt the need to log on and clarify who was who or why the comments came from the same computer. I figured that you would know from the e-mail address.
If there is a way, I would like request that this blog be taken down or our names/situation be removed from this post. I don’t speak for HisBella, therefore I don’t care if you keep her name up there. I am only concerned about my sister and I.
I personally enjoy the blog and I was going to take you up on your offer. But with this recent post, I’m on the defense because you made a spectacle out of me and my sister without verifying your information.
Again I am disappointed with this because it was not called for and it could have been handled in a more diplomatic way.
-Julia
@mic: = TYLER DURDEN!!oneone!!11!
Julia seems to have a special talent for taking outrage to the next level. What makes you think Philip will publish your email (whether you mean an email address or private messages you’ve exchanged) so that people will attack you and your sister?
Hey Julia,
What would the point be of taking down the names in this blog? Phil never mentions a last name, email address, or ip specific to you…thus the only name he refers to you by is your first name – Julia (which you obviously identified yourself).
Yes…this blog does put “Julia” on blast….but you can’t be the only “Julia” in the world.
Philip, you sly devil. You’re posting this so the people you named on this post will continuously log on to dispute your writing. Thus, you’re driving your page views up.
And, I will continuously hit refresh until I see that you’ve commented on my post. :p
Hahahaha..congrats Philip
Hugs to all offenders of Brazil!
@Julia, as E mentions above, not only will I, or any of the Offenders, ever publicly out your email or any of your personal info without your permission including personal correspondences so no need to worry about that. Frankly, I don’t know your last name or any other info about you anyway so not sure how you can personally be embarrassed as you are not being called out publicly as an individual in that way. Everything I used in my blog was public info–all the comments I used are ones you posted at YOMYOMF–a public forum for all to see. If you choose to share your opinions on a public forum and in the way you did, you should not be surprised if there is a response.
So for that reason, the blog is not coming down. We write about a lot of people and things on this blog but we try to adhere to what I said above so honestly if we had to take down blogs every time someone said something publicly but didn’t like that we responded to it, there wouldn’t be a blog. And yeah, we have gotten angry responses to stuff we’ve written and will continue to do so. Let’s forget about your sister and HisBella for now, the fact is in this case you wrote long and recurring comments that I felt were unfair, accusatory and extreme and when you do that on a blog, I think it would be naive to think there’d be no response. Now this is the first time I’ve written a whole blog addressing negative comments (and believe me, we get a lot) and maybe I’ll never do that again, but I genuinely felt in this case it warranted it because of the circumstances I’ve explained above.
That’s fine if you didn’t know that your sister was going to respond as well but here’s what I have a problem with–she misrepresented herself. Maybe she thought she would be more helpful by writing a comment pretending she didn’t know you, but then you also responded to her comments in the same way–as if you were strangers. The confusion would have been avoided had either of you simply pointed out that this is my sister and I agree with her viewpoint.
As I pointed out with H.L.’s comments, I really do appreciate the differing opinions and am fine with that and if you wish to continue leaving your comments, that would be great. If not, that’s OK too. But you should know that if people disagree and if they disagree strongly with anything you or anyone else says, they (whether me or other readers or bloggers) also have the same right as you to address it in a public forum and in the same public forum. That’s one of the points of having a blog.
I did receive an email from you and if you still want, I’d be happy to respond to you though not sure I’d have anything to add. Why didn’t I email you directly? First, there’s a lot of responses to deal with and it’s not my policy to deal with everything directly–that’s what the blog is for. Secondly, as I mentioned this was an issue that wasn’t just limited to your comments but others as well. Finally, I believe Sung did try to reach out to you. He sent a test email to make sure your email was valid and wanted to explain his situation but you sent back an email making it clear that you didn’t appreciate any attempts to correspond in that matter. I think a response like that makes it difficult to see the route you suggested as a viable option.
Hope that explains things and I really wish you the best.
@John, yup, it’s all about the hits
refresh again in a few minutes, won’t you?
I just have to say that there’s a trackback to the “Pregnancy Miracle Review” here. I know it’s slightly off-topic, but.. what??
Dear Phillip,
The reason why I feel it should be taken down is because the information is false and I don’t feel that my name , along with my sisters should be pulled through the dirt for a misunderstanding.
I understand you want post but there is no need to insult and publically humiliate my sister and I in order to gain them. If you would have given me sometime, I would have gladly posted on the blog.
Unfortunately, I won’t be doing so. The fact that your allowing false information that degrades the character of two people to stay up there is very unsettling to me and I’m sure if it was you someone posted false information about, it would have been very upsetting and you would indeed request that it be taken down.
It’s obvious that you’re talking about me and from the looks of it I am the only Julia that post on here, why I should be open to bashful comments about information that you displayed?
No offense to you but my post was my opinion on his mothers comments. It wasn’t wrong nor was it right. Everyone takes things different, as you and you crew were very upset by HisBellas disrespect comments.
Though when the shoe was the other foot and it was “American Women” being called out, you thought it was funny and I was in the wrong.
But when someone deicide to literally take Sung Kangs Mothers words and apply it to Asian Men , you are offend.
I don’t agree with her post and I think she’s disrespectful but it seems there is a double standard in who can say what. As Americans we were offended but it seems that was dismissed and written off as a joke
I have one question for you.
Do you want peoples real opinions about your post? Or do you want a “yes man” post? Clearly the only opinion acceptable on here is you guys.
I’m really upset by the treatment both of us are receiving, we are fans and you think that our opinions would be valued. Whether they are equivalent to yours or not, it should considered and respected.
This officially is my last post.
I do hope that you get all the comments you want out of this Phillip. Just know your using lies to rack up a couple of comments.
My question is, is it really all worth it? You really would post lies to get a few comments, than to post the truth and get more comments.
Here’s a link for all of you. Maybe you should read this article and apply it to the post you do after this.
http://blog.angelaconnor.com/2009/07/28/public-humiliation-is-no-way-to-build-community/
-Julia
P.S.- I wonder how Sung’s mother felt about her words being used for some blogs, words I’m sure she wanted to stay between her and her son. I now officially feel what Shanelle and Terrell felt when they read a blog degrading them.
Clearly, there are no gamers here. This is extremely tame tit-for-tat compared to other forums like tribalwar where cyberbullying is a contact sport.
I do agree there is much “Yes Man” huzzah to this blog and beating this dead horse borders on douchiness, but seriously… if you signed your name and pressed enter, it’s too late to take it back.
You are not the only Julia here….I just prefer not comment on this blog under “Julia” because I might get mistaken for you.
@Julia: You either are deliberately misconstruing Philip’s words or are the type of person to fly off the handle without fully understanding what is going on. Either way, that, combined with your inability to back down and admit fault, means I hope you never get elected to a position of power.
I would rather hear another epic rock concert story or some hidden gem of cinema so do us all a favor and stop putting him in a position where he has to write long messages defending the blog from a crazy person that repeatedly fails at reading comprehension. Thanks.
Phillip didnt humiliate you….you did that all on your own.
come on nic, baby steps. this is wild for AA blogs. most of ‘em don’t even have talkback, just banners that tells me i have hep b
lol nic. totally concur. thanks for the post, phil. very entertaining indeed. and julia? sorry, but phil’s RARELY diplomatic. (i’d use the word “never,” but i think there was this one time a couple of years ago.)
People didn’t complain when “Chinky or not Chinky” is used as a feature description, and suddenly they are offended by the term of “American Woman???” WTF…
Phil, I’m Brazilian and from today I will follow your blog, I’m super fan of Sung Kang, and it is sad to know that a post about children’s feelings or events can not be shared with anyone without receiving criticism as low and without the slightest regard, cool your post today, I went to Sung’s blog as I do every day and found something that really made me less sad, because the thought of Sung who left the blog and I will not have access to his thoughts and crazy life experiences, let me sad. But I hope your posts informative and entertaining …. kisses
@Melissa, thanks but want to point out that Sung has not left the blog. He’s still very much an Offender. His last blog was an April Fool’s joke as were all our blogs on April 1 so he’s still here and I suspect no matter what we do, he’ll never go away.
haha…”public humiliation is no way to build community”??
I’d say the internet and especially blogging has made public humiliation a prime source of building community. They even invented their own word for it “PWN.” Julia, you’ve been pwned.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pwn
I just want to say I am offended that Philip uses the term ‘blog’ to refer both to this blog as a whole, and also to each individual blog POST. We Blogger-Americans know that “You Offend Me You Offend My Family” is a BLOG, while “Why I’m Afraid of American Women” is correctly called a BLOG POST. Please correct this in future, or I am going to boycott this BLOG and take my business elsewhere.
I think this all proves why we should be afraid of American Women
@benn: LOL. Either that or Google Ads that try to sell me a mail-order bride.
Melissa,
falou tudo que eu queria falar, infelizmente não domino bem o inglês como queria…e quase morro por não poder me expressar..haha
Beijo Grande
Turn off the computer, go outside, breathe. Take a walk in the spring air. This isn’t reality. Your feelings are, si, butthisisanInternetboard and youcanturnitofforon, at anytime. You control it.
BTW, I am Spartacus.
Wow! So much emo butthurt here.
Perhaps the “sisters” would be so kind as to fill this form out here: http://therustynail.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/butthurt-form.jpg
..And mail it to the appropriate authorities?
JuliKaren reasoning:
-YOMYOMF public posting of opinion = not ok
-JuliKaren posting of opinion = ok
-JuliKaren making assumptions of Sung = ok
-Sung analyzing willingly submitted info of JuliKaren = not ok
-JuliKaren (supposedly not the same person) coming to the defense of JuliKaren = ok
-Phil (different person from Sung) coming to the defense of Sung = not ok
-JuliKaren writing more than the original posts in repetitive complaints = ok
-Phil (again, NOT Sung) quoting those windbag complaints = not ok
HisBella reasoning: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdaCq5MWukc
Recent Sung and Sung-related posts/comments’ total net impact on YOMYOMF: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OlCnPKr4Q8
Here’s another “yeah man” to Phil, Sung, and the whole lot of you. I am white–I’m not offended by anything that Sung writes!! Just blown away by the juvenileness, low IQ and low EQ of some of these comments. Get over it, people.
Philip–kudos to you for NOT taking them down, and for responding in such a classy way.
Long life YOMYOMF!
Phillip:
O .M. G.
*evil laugh*
…and what a sneaky way to try and get more blog comments than Sung.
btw: anyone claiming to be “Hyunjin”…I’m so kicking their *ss, you know, right after I recover from my fever/flu induced delirium that I’m treating with jajangmyeon
Wait, so all I have to do to receive an e-mail from Sung Kang is to call him a racist and claim that I’m no longer a fan of his?
Well then, I’m destroying my copy of The Motel right after I finish this post, and I’m also ripping up my Finishing the Game poster and throwing it in the recycling bin. (Because hey, I hate Sung, not the environment.)
Sung, because of your racism towards “American women”, my drunk, loud, smelly self included, here is a list of things that I will never again enjoy: Better Luck Tomorrow, pooping, running barefoot, Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift, pooping, Undoing, “It Was a Good Day”, and did I mention taking craps?
E-mail me back immediately, and we’ll set up a time for you to come to Boston and discuss this hatred over Korean BBQ and soju. =)
whooaa..
that Julia sure are really offended, good work guys…
For God sake, Sung’s just a kid when his mother said that, don’t take it too serious. I don’t know why,but Asian mothers really is very strict and always give weird reasons.. my mom does too.
Some just don’t understands..
Ok, I read the blog that the Julia/Karen person was reading, and I have to say…that I found it hilarious!!!
And I’m American and black 
I should know-I went to Atlanta this past summer and I have family there so it wasn’t my first time going.
Hmm…Terrell and Shanelle, those do sound like names of people of the black persuasion. Exactly what part of Georgia did Sung live in? If it’s Atlanta, I’m going to be like “BLACK!”
Just out of curiosity, has this site done some blogs about Asian/Black relations? They don’t have to be of the serious sort-like L.A riots (she shudders) or anything like that. Like, maybe a blog about the John Cho/Gabrielle Union coupling on Flash Forward, or maybe things that black people like that maybe make Asian people think “…why..?” I don’t know, just a suggestion
The very core of your writing whilst appearing agreeable in the beginning, did not sit very well with me personally after some time. Somewhere within the paragraphs you actually were able to make me a believer unfortunately only for a while. I still have got a problem with your jumps in logic and you would do nicely to help fill in those breaks. In the event that you actually can accomplish that, I would undoubtedly end up being impressed. chakras