It shouldn’t come as a surprise that the rest of the world sometimes doesn’t have the best impression of America (the fact that we even refer to ourselves as Americans when there are plenty of other nations in the Americas should be reason enough to hate us). And to hear that some in the international community think that America the United States is dumb shouldn’t come as a shock either. After all, we have unleashed these things on the world:
But that’s not the reason why Yaxue Cao over at the Seeing Red in China blog thinks the Chinese specifically think we’re dumb as a doorknob (you can read her full post here). This is:
To many Chinese, Americans don’t have xin-yan…they trust what you say, and they believe you are doing what you say you are doing. For that, they are dumb.
So basically, what this is saying is that the Chinese believe that Americans are dumb because we’re too straightforward and trusting; that we’re not wily enough. Or as Cao learned from a Chinese writer friend of hers:
For him (again, he is not a singularity), to speak your mind straightforwardly, to defend your position forcefully, and to uphold what you believe without compromise, are all signs of childishness. A lot of Americans, alas, fill that bill.
Cao, who’s a Chinese living in America, gives other examples in her blog about how people she knows in China subscribe to this point-of-view and does her best to defend the good ole U.S. of A. as in this passage:
Whenever I hear a fellow Chinese say or hint that the Chinese are “smart” and the Americans are “simple,” I would quickly point out that wisdom is not universal. Instead, it is relative and product of a particular society. The Chinese “wisdom” they cherish so much and feel so smart about is really just habits they have developed in a totalitarian, oppressive, and in many ways odious society. It’s nothing but the mold that grows in a dark and wet place.
Now, I’ve never been to China and I don’t profess to be an expert on Chinese culture so I can’t say with any authority whether this is true or not. I do know that Asian culture, in general, does tend to be less direct, more passive-aggressive if you will, with a lot that stays hidden under the surface, so let’s assume Cao is right. And if she is, then essentially, aren’t the Chinese suggesting that in order to be considered “smart,” we have to be more like them—more inscrutable and sneaky–which means more like this:
Yup, just like Fu Manchu a.k.a. the ultimate stereotype of Asians as the enemy of the Caucasian people and embodiment of all that is evil and bad. Which makes sense because Fu Manchu may have been evil, but he’s also a genius/mastermind a.k.a. “smart.”
So what do people think? Is this an accurate assessment of how the Chinese view us? If so, should we take a lesson from them and “smarten” up? Chinky or not chinky?
And while you ponder that, I’ll be taking my first steps toward true intelligence by growing a Fu Manchu beard and kicking a Caucasian puppy. Man, I can already feel myself getting smarter.













so basically honesty is stupid in China? well well well..
I agree with Cao’s counter-example: Dishonesty is a basic tenet of the government system there. Being honest is incompatible with China’s Communism and playing by the rules or too “straightforward” will not get you ahead.
Mind you this is true in the government there, therefore this form of behavior/mentality is probably championed (forced) onto the general population, who in turn go on to make a non sequitur umbrella statement that all who don’t run parallel to this standard are “stupid.”
ROFLMAO!!! Great post Phil!
Btw, I asked this asian girl on the bus wearing a red abercrombie & fitch sweater if she was Japanese or Korean, she replied Japanese with her Chinese sounding chinglish. Well, I spoke Japanese to her and she couldn’t understand a word, just violently shook her head left and right as if rebelling against a parent telling her it’s time to go home. First of all, usually only Chinese would be caught dead wearing red due to them thinking it brings good luck and crap, 2nd only Chinese would proudly sport racist Abercrombie & Fitch crap. Was she smart by saying she was Japanese? Poor dishonest Chinese girl! How smart does she think she is? I hope I run into her again so I can test her yin yan intelligence with my American simplicity.
The majority of chinese people working in factories can’t even do their jobs correctly, with no understanding or knowleddge of exactly they’re even assembling much of the time. THe Taiwanese, Korean, and Japanese are WAY more intelligent.
Americans aren’t very intelligent, but that’s not their fault. Blame organized religion.
the factory workers aren’t stupid because they cant put things together. it’s about management. very often people are trained to do one thing an one thing only. hence the huge amount of staff in say, restaurants or whatever.
also there is no empowerment here either. the stuffed duck education dictates “this problem –> this solution.”
and if your factory is like 100,000 people lol the bosses can’t be all up in you all the time. people do get lazy things do go wrong.
Yaxue Cao assessment is ignorant… it takes a Chinese idea out of its political/cultural context!
Speaking your mind straightforwardly and defending your position is STUPID in any country with a strong Communist government. Doing so can hurt you or your family, which is a reality in many parts of China. Therefore, “smart” people try to stay alive by keeping a low profile, and lying when needed. Wouldn’t you?
It’s hard for most Americans to understand what it’s like to live under Communist rule— just as it’s hard for most Chinese nationals to grasp what American cultural obsessions with “honesty” are all about. To understand this, you’d have to know a lot about living in the US— and not everyone does.
If you spent most of your life living in a Communist country with censored media access, American cultural norms may seem “stupid,” or weird.
BUT. That doesn’t mean that persons of Chinese descent think all Americans are stupid, or that being sneaky or passive-aggressive is “smart.” People are doing whatever they feel they need to do to survive.
What’s a smart survival strategy in China might be dumb in the US.
Therefore, many Chinese Americans speak their mind straightforwardly and defend their positions. Since they are Americans, they usually don’t view Americans or the American obsession with “freedom of expression” as dumb. Otherwise, they’d be insulting themselves and well over half the values they grew up with.
As for the “passive-aggressiveness” mentioned in the article… that’s not part of “Asian culture.” In the US, that’s actually a survival mechanism developed in response to racism that most Asian Americans endured for hundreds of years (i.e. coolie slave trade, internment, etc.) Until the 70s, Asian Americans were not seen as “Americans,” but part of a “yellow peril.” Being outspoken and Asian in the US meant you could be violently attacked just like any other “nonwhite” minority.
So, I call bull on Cao’s ignorant misinterpretation!
I dunno…it calls to mind Deputy “Scream” Dewey’s rhetorical question: “How do you know my dimwitted inexperience isn’t merely a subtle form of manipulation, used to lower people’s expectations, thereby enhancing my ability to effectively maneuver within any given situation?”
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